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« on: October 20, 2007, 11:17:07 PM »

Be Nice. It looks like crap on You Tube. It looks alot better in real life. How do I make it look nice on you tube? I uploaded it as a WMV file.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ajCGeJRBeo

Remember be nice. Mine will nver look like Adam's I'm humbled just to be allowed to post after, him even though i did copy some of his ending.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 12:11:54 AM »

I didn't think the video quality was all that bad, considering it's YouTube.  For something this short, if you get your own hosting, you could have much better quality though.  Check out www.SmBizHosting.com (shameless plug!)

You had a close-up or two that I really liked.  Maybe a few more of those.  Since this is just a demo clip, i.e.: collection of short clips, you might consider having more "special" shots - i.e.:  make use of some natural framing; have foreground objects to add some depth; replace all clips that aren't framed just right and maybe replace some of the shakier shots with those from tripod or Glidecam, etc.  In other words, each clip should be a "winner" - no room for average clips in a short web demo.

All in all, this is much better than a lot of wedding demo clips I've seen.

I don't post web clips.  Web demos are short like a sprint.  An entire wedding video is like a cross-country run.  There are too many guys who can beat me in a sprint, but I can hold my own in a marathon.  (Well, actually I can't anymore, but this is just a similie, OK)  :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 01:16:40 AM »

Actually, as Hank said, I'm really surprised at the quality you got out of YouTube for this. Not bad at all in that respect.

As far as my critique, the biggest complaint I have is the song you used. It's a great song, but I don't know if it "matches" the demo, if that makes any sense.

Other than that, I liked a lot of your shots. Your framing of the parents at :45 was awesome. I really liked the front on kiss at 1:10 too. All in all, there are a lot of great shots.

I will be brutally honest though, and say that there are a few things I would change. Now, I'm going to list a lot of stuff, but I want you to know that I'm just being nit-picky, and overall, I really like this demo. Don't worry, I'm sure that shortly here I'll post a link to my short form demo, and you can definitely pick it to pieces too :-)

First thing, as much as I always tell people to avoid those special transitions and effects, I actually seriously loved the transition effect you used to bring in your text. It was awesome. However, the text itself caught my eye. For some reason, it just reminds me of Disney World. It would probably be a good idea to pick a font that doesn't look so similar to a popular company's font. You want people to think "MatFam Productions" and not "Disney" when they see your videos.

The next thing I had a suggestion for was the opening shot. If you've got a shot that's tight on a person's face and their lips are moving, you need to know what that person is communicating. If it were something easy to lip-read, like "I love you" it wouldn't be so bad, but when all I hear is music, and there's a whole 5 seconds of a talking head I can't hear, my brain is telling me something isn't right.

Also, in that shot, You have the bride (I assume) too far to the left in your frame. The rule of thirds is an invaluable rule, and if you're not familiar with it, I highly suggest you learn it and get very comfortable using it. If I had been framing the shot, I would have had the top and side of her head slightly clipped, so her eyes were right at the top right intersection of the "thirds", and given her plenty of room in front of her (which the direction she's sitting, would be on the left hand of the frame) to lead the viewer, a camera term called, aptly enough, leading.

On the next clip (the wedding dress), again, I like it, but it could have been done slightly differently. We like to stage our "dress shot" a little more. Get the bridesmaids dresses out of the way, adjust the dress so you can see the best side of it, and shoot it close, from an ultra low, or at least a low, angle. Shoting from low angles is interesting, not just because it's a view that we 5'10" (on average) humans see all the time, but also because it makes your subject look larger than life, giving them a majestic presence. Next time you watch tv, look for low angle shots, and you'll see that they're actually used a lot when something (good or evil) is meant to be overstated, above it's actual influence.

That's a good general comment I'll make. Try shooting things from different angles sometime. Sure, the vantage point of a 5-9 human is comfortable to shoot from, but some of the best shots of my whole career have been taken lying on my back, or bending in some awkward position that probably looked ridiculous at the time.

At :20, you have a neat clip where the bride is being prepped. I love the mask to blur out her surroundings, I think it's a neat trick for occasional usage. However, I feel like the clip didn't get a full effort on the producer's part. The blur mask is basically a big round area, and to really make the effect work, shaping it to the bride would have been beter. It's unfair that the poor girl on the far left of the frame is blurred, while the gals somewhat closer to the bride get to be in focus. If the point is to draw the focus onto the bride, go all the way, and put a proper matte up that only leaves the bride in focus.

On the clip at :26, again, leading them a little more would have been nice. When people are moving, as a practice method, try to keep their back just touching the side of the frame. It makes the shot look all that much better. On the bright side, your next several clips do lead beautifully, and are very nicely composed, to boot.

Small detail, but I am not a huge fan of the quick camera movement that was going on at :47 in the clip. I often make the mistake myself of going to fast in pans and zooms, and I always regret it later. Smooth motion is law number one in camera movement, though law number two, gradual movements, is a close second, at least in my book. Of course, you can do a quick zoom in for effect, but you should really use a tripod for that sort of thing. It makes the effect all the more better.

I love the candle at 1:20, but it would have been an even neater clip if you had shallowed your depth of field a bit. To get that to happen, open your aperture as wide as you can, and get a few feet away from the candel, so you have to zoom to get that really tight shot. This focuses more light on the CCD's and makes it easier to get that nice shallow DoF.

Anyway, I know I was brutal there, and I'm really sorry!!! Hopefully you'll see this for what it is, an honest critique to help you become the very best, and you won't come slash my tires or anything! :lol:  :shock:

Seriously, and I really mean this, it's a great little clip. I like it, and I hope to be able to see more of your stuff soon! :-)
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 08:16:17 AM »

I have no right offering my opinion when I don't have any of my work available yet to see, but since we are here to help each other out, here goes:

Very cute clip!  I think it was just the right length for a web clip and you put a lot of really great shots in there.  I really liked the clip at :39 of the parents crying...nice touch!

I won't rehash anything that Jim said, because he is much more helpful on the shooting aspect than I.  But let me give you a little clue about watching demos from a "brides perspective" since I recently was one.  I was going to write an article on this, but just haven't found the time.

This is a point that applies to everyone.  I'm going to say this as nicely to all you guys out here as possible without offending anyone.  Weddings are a fantasy for us girls.  You guys won't believe this, but at least half of what we are watching when we are watching your demos is NOT your camera or editing abilities.  It's the BRIDE.  We are critiquing her dress, her hair, her choice of bridesmaid attire, her flowers, her place settings...EVERYTHING.  I know, it sounds nasty, but it's totally true.  So, my point is, in your demos, try as much as possible to use a bride that is very attractive and has a very fashionable dress, hairstyle, etc...  Your bride at :21 is a good example of this.  I wanted to watch her more.  I'm not saying the other brides were not attractive, it's just that there was one that I wanted to watch more of, and others that I visually "tuned out" on.  Ouch.

Think about it guys...number one rule of Hollywood marketing is that "sex sells."  I'm not trying to be vulgar, but there is a reason why Hollywood hires supermodels to sell toothpaste.  Subliminally, we are visually attracted to beautiful people and want to watch them more...then we buy the toothpaste because somehow deep in that brain of ours, we think that if we buy that toothpaste we will be beautiful, too.

Same goes with your demos and videos.  If we women watch a video with a beautiful bride, in our fantasy wedding world, we might be thinking that we, too, will be that beautiful in YOUR video on our day.  

Sad, but true.  One of us had to say it.  Let me know if you guys want to hear more, and I'll write the article, but I have a feeling it is a sensitive subject and I don't want to offend anyone.  Maybe it's a secret best kept with us girls...
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 11:38:08 AM »

Wow!  There is more quality critiquing in those last two posts than I've ever seen anywhere - and from two very different, yet very important perspectives.

We have a great group!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 03:59:26 PM »

Hey! NTB (Not Too Bad) Buddy. I admire you for throwing it out there and being open to critique. I remember very clearly the first time I sent my work to Hank. I was as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs and never so proud as when I got back a positive review. Of course there were many things I needed to improve upon but overall it was very positive. Luckily for me I had the opportunity to pick Hank's brain apart before I shot that work and he gave me several of his works to view for ideas. By the way, don't let Hank fool you. He is a TRUE pro. Conscientious (SP?), dedicated, and very capable. Anything I am, I am because of him. The fact is that I am still a student at HSPV (Hank's School of Professional Videography). Anyway, I was way ahead of the game before I ever got started. So, attaboy on being open to critique. Let me share something with you too, critiques are people's opinion and you may ultimately choose to reject some of what the folks on here say (myself included). You will have to make the decision that's right for you. However, the times when you part from most of the advice given here should probably be few and far between. (In my opinion  :wink: )

I will just throw a couple of other things in for now. I think that overall, considering your experience, equipment, etc. the demo was pretty good. However, there are a few things that hit me that I want to toss in here. You have gotten a couple of very good critiques but let me just add a couple of things in addition. Yes, there were many technical problems that you should work on and I saw a few that were not really mentioned. However, to me, the thing that screams AMETEUR louder than almost anything, is shaky video. It is critical that you correct this. You can shoot video that has many other flaws but as long as it is smooth and steady, you can still impress a client if your shots and editing are good. Certainly though, the other side of that coin might be more true: great video that is shaky can be viewed in a very negative light. This is the FIRST problem that you should correct. If you must hand hold your camera, you have to get a stabilization device of some kind, such as a Glidecam. In a total pinch, fold up the legs of your tripod and let them hang straight down. That is if you are in a bind.

Now, just one or two other quick hits. You have one straight cut in the middle of the demo (1:11) while everything else is dissolves. It looks a bit out of place. You had one clip that was way too short especially in light of the others around it. The clip that begins at :55 is too long. I like to keep most of my clips to in the five second range. The next clip is way too short especially in light of the previous one. I think I see what you are trying to do there, in showing three clips of the same event but the last one needs some significant color adjustment. I had to watch it several times to be sure it was even from the same wedding. A little adjustment might help tremendously. Last but not least, work on that rule of thirds and watch your head room (I saw several clips that had way too much head room). These are things that make your video more pleasing to the viewer even though they don't know why.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 11:14:05 PM »

What was the font you used? If you wouldnt mind sharing?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2007, 12:33:24 AM »

Disney font---No wonder it made Jim think of Walt Disney. I am VERY THANKFUL for everyones brutal (not really) honesty.

Thank you all so much, working on fixing it. The depth of field shot on the "candle" (pitcher of lemonade) looks great.

I would love to read an article of video from the brides perspective.


Kevin
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