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Author Topic: My punk rock show experience last night...  (Read 1556 times)
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« on: January 18, 2009, 05:28:47 PM »

Hey Guys,
I thought I would share where being in our business takes you occassionally. Back in the day I used to be in a metal band. We played alot of dives and broken down metal and punk clubs. One of which was the New Brookland Tavern in Cayce. Well, my gig with Time Warner brought me back to the NBT last night for a shoot. It was unreal. There were 4 hardcore punk bands on the bill, and each set got rougher and more violent than the last. You have to understand, these used to be my people. I'm 35 now, no tatoos, lives in the suburbs, you know; a sellout, a square. So, I got a mixture of amazement and vehemence from the kids that were at the show. I decided, like you do, to get in the front to get tight shots, and we had a camera in the back, another one on stage, and my soon to be patented "drum cam" which was my HV20. First of all, the promoter caled me and was concerned about "white light" that none of the bands were going to stand for white light on stage because colored light is much more punk and white light is sellout bs. So, I'm like alrighty whatever... anyway, we ended up coaxing as much light as we could out of broken down cans that they had, and it ended up being ok. In the front, I was the target of the pit. So, I'm at the front of the stage, and behind me is spin kicking, violent rage while the band is all over the place... jumping into the crowd, hanging from the ceiling, etc. So, I go through three 25 minute sets of this. At one point some kid writes CORPORATE s**t on a piece of paper and shoves it in front of the camera. I tried to grab him before he ran off to tell him that it was too dark for me to see it, but he lost his chance to say something on TV Smiley Anyway, the headliner is apparently a fairly well known band called "Black Tusk" and the singer comes to me before their set and tells me that their thing is that they keep it dark on stage, and have these green and blue lights they trigger from a pedal. So, I'm going well, if it's dark, there's no picture, so anyway. That one will be interesting to see how it turns out, because I got alot of green tinted sillhouettes and such, but It's hard to say what it looked like. It was, nonetheless, a very cool experience, and I have a sense that the footage will be pretty kick arse. I feel like I have been beaten with rods in my back, and my eyes are burning still from the smoke, but it was good to get back to my roots, and see that kids are still angry and rebellious. Nothing changes for them, which is very cool. I'm not editing this one (thank god) but I will keep you guys posted if anyone's interested. This felt like being embedded in the war, so I can't imagine a much more challenging peacetime shoot. BTW i used 2 A1s with the new PFVision preset, an HV20, and a VX2100. We shot all SD Sad 4:3 so it can go on the crappy TV we have here. Thanks for listening...
Grant Photo & Video

Website http://www.grantphotovideo.com
Blog http://www.grantphotovideo.blogspot.com
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 09:38:13 PM »

Thanks for a fun read, Bill.  Is that a low-light preset? 

We did our first hi-def wedding a few weeks back, no presets, and we were disappointed with the grain even though we'd limited the gain.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 10:28:57 PM »

Hank,
The key to these cameras are the presets. The grain without preset is way too much. I have experimented with quite a few presets off of dvinfo.net. I am trying out PFvision now which is...
GAM CINE1
CMX N
HDF L
Black S
Knee L
NR1 off
NR2 off
CGN 25
RGN 48
GGN 49
BGN 50
SHP 9
SET -9
COR 9
I would learn what these things affect and how they react in different situations. I typically use another preset which is...
GAM 2
KNE L
BLK S
SHP 2
HDF M
NR2 H
CMX N
RGN -7
GGN 3
BGN 12
RGM 40
RBM -12
GRM 6
BRM 12
BGM -3
this one was too dark for this een though it is considerably cleaner.
Good luck.
Bill
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 10:36:21 PM »

Bill, we're doing a wedding in Seattle next weekend.  Which preset would you recommend? (I don't have time to experiment).

Thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 10:44:52 PM »

I would recommend the truecolor I'm currently using, I haven't seen enough  of the other one to tell. However, I would keep the other one in reserve in case it gets too dark. Bright is better than nothing...Good luck.
Bill
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 10:48:48 PM »

Thanks!  I'll give it a try.  If it doesn't work out, I'll blame it on you!   Wink

Why do people get married in winter?  I was so glad the season was over, but then two November weddings, one December and a January.  It never ends!
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 10:24:05 PM »

Sounds like a good time.  I've been trying to break into that market more as well.  I have a lot of friends that play and are metal heads.  I'd like to do some of that just for diversity sake.  Good stuff though....keepin a mix.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 12:39:14 AM »

I realized I never posted the finished clip. It is pretty dark, but you can see all we had were the green lights from the band. Still pretty cool I think. The wide shot is a VX2100. If you're interested, here ya go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ3yRwiBPQg&feature=channel_page
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