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Author Topic: dSLR Video - Nikon Option?  (Read 1430 times)
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« on: September 14, 2009, 01:11:25 PM »

Hello all,

I love the high def video I've seen from the Canon 5D II, and as a Nikon owner, I long to do something similar. I know that the D90 and D5000 have HD video modes, but I'm under the impression that they shoot in some wierd motion jpeg format, not in something nice like AVHCD or H.264.

Does Nikon have a camera that would shoot video in a format that would play nice with video editing software? Any chance of one coming out anytime soon?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 03:15:46 PM »

Well, the Nikon does have an HDMI connection, so you could always port it out to another cam, etc.  Remember when AVCHD wasn't well supported?  Speaking of AVCHD, how about Panasonic's Lumix DMC-GH1? 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/03/panasonics-new-lumix-dmc-gh1-does-1080p-video-in-a-micro-four-t/
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 03:45:09 PM »

Looks nice....
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 05:46:23 PM »

Try reviewing the DVinfo forums for more details:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/photo-hd-video-d-slr-others/

Also note that there's nothing "nice" about AVC-based source material, other than being recognized by many editing programs. The heavy compression requires conversion to a less intense codec for effective editing, and that's a workflow bugaboo.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 12:12:25 AM »

Actually, the AVCHD video I've edited (one consumer camera and one prosumer - for another videographer) turned out beautiful.  I was looking for definition issues due to compression, but I really didn't find any.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 07:57:33 PM »

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the footage won't look good, but the original post referred to "playing nice" with editing software. AVCHD is so heavily compressed that it's not practical to edit directly; you need to transcode to a less compressed format for effective editing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 08:02:51 PM »

I've edited two tracks of avchd on my laptop (not exactly the falstest - 2.4 I think) with no problem at all.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 10:12:41 PM »

I've edited two tracks of avchd on my laptop (not exactly the falstest - 2.4 I think) with no problem at all.

That contradicts what I'm hearing elsewhere, but it could be software-dependent - what editing software are you using?
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 10:40:48 PM »

My laptop runs Sony Vegas.  I'm running CS4 everywhere else.  I think I've only done 1 track (family video for my son in laws) on my CS4 desktop, but no problems there either.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »

My laptop runs Sony Vegas. 

Ah, that would explain it - gotta love the draft preview option in Vegas. Most other software works better if the AVCHD footage is transcoded to an intermediate format for editing.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 08:08:00 PM »

The Nikon dSLR cameras only shoot in 720 and not 1080.  If and when they release a 1080 I am sure it will give Canon some competition in the professional market.  I have heard of compression issues but not tested it myself so I don't know this to be true. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2010, 05:03:02 AM »

I am also looking forward to Nikon delivering 1080p.   I sold all my Canon gear a couple of years back and now am wondering if it was the right decision.  The D700 is certainly up to all the photo tasks I've given it - but I am yearning for the 1080p on DSLR.   I've looked at going back to Canon with the 7D or 5D2 (or even dipping the toe in with the 550D) but the cost of changing all the glass back is the killer.   

I've also looked at the GH1 but episode one here ( http://www.zacuto.com/shootout ) kinda put me off.  I'd be interested in any one who really likes the GH1 because it would solve a couple of other problems for me at the same time.

In terms of AVCHD, my Panasonic HMC cameras record in AVCHD and I would not be worried about it in terms of quality.  However, I would recommend transcoding to something more NLE friendly if you are looking for several tracks on the time line or want to do more than simple fades etc, or have a long project to work on (such as a wedding!).   AVCHD is going to work your CPU overtime and while transcoding takes time (I let mine run over night) it makes editing a lot smoother.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 10:57:34 AM »

I've got the GH1, what questions do you have?
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2010, 03:25:57 PM »

As I posted in another one of your threads, what is it like at high ISO compared to other video cameras at high gain.

Any chance I can get some sample AVCHD footage directly from the camera in a) daylight, b) low light higher ISO ?

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 09:34:03 PM »

Ask and ye shall receive. (Warning, 180mb)

Don't judge me on these shots :0)
http://www.nickbodmer.com/temp/samples.zip

Day shot (indoors, but w/ window) is at ISO 200, 1/125 shutter speed.

Reception is ISO 800, 1/30 shutter speed

Both shot with 20mm 1.7.

Uploading now, it's 9:30 central, should be done in about 10 min.
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